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CIS Top Ten

Post by Rids » Sat Oct 03, 2009 7:52 pm

It'll look different this week with Western Ontario dropping their game today against Mac. Calgary took care of their business and will stay top 3. Queen's probably replaces UWO in the top 3, of course that's banking on a Laval win tomorrow.

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Post by argolio » Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:34 pm

Rids wrote:of course that's banking on a Laval win tomorrow.
The bank is closed! I caught the 4th quarter of this game on TSN2.
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Post by Rids » Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:19 pm

I can't remember the last time #1 and #2 in the CIS lost the same weekend. Pretty easy to say that since Laval has been ranked #1 for basically 2 1/2 seasons.

I put Queen's down as my #1 (haven't seen all the polls yet...know the official poll put Montreal into #1)
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Post by Hollywood2 » Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:21 am

The CIS Top 10 always over-rates the wins OUA and AUS teams have against their conference jabronis. So I present ... [THE OFFICIAL HOLLYWOOD TOP 27].

OFFICIAL HOLLYWOOD TOP 27 - WEEK 6

This thread, from CISfootball.org is a dominant thread with almost 8,000 hits. And why not? It is the most authoritative poll in CIS football!

To read past polls, here are links to the past Top 27s: Note that the week 4 poll had a recap of all scores from the first three full weeks. (The first week had only the UBC-SFU game.) The week 7 poll will cover weeks 5 to 7 (games 4 to 6 got most teams.)

STEP 1: WEEK 5 RESULTS
  • Friday, Oct. 2
    Saint Mary's 47, Mount Allison 18
    Saskatchewan 24, Simon Fraser 18 (OT)

    Saturday, Oct. 3
    Toronto 45, York 27
    Ottawa 27, Laurier 25
    Queen's 42, Windsor 13
    Guelph 34, Waterloo 24
    McGill 21, Bishop's 19
    Concordia 34, Sherbrooke 22
    St Francis-Xavier 60, Acadia 7
    McMaster 42, W. Ontario 35
    Manitoba 20, Alberta 13
    Calgary 50, UBC 26

    Sunday, Oct. 4
    Montreal 28, Laval 7
STEP 2: REGIONAL RANKINGS
  • CANADA WEST

    1 Calgary (4-1, 4-2) beat Alta, Reg, SFU, UBC; lost to Sask
    2 Saskatchewan (3-1, 4-1) beat Calg, Reg, SFU; lost to Alta

    3 Regina (2-2) beat Man, UBC; lost to Sask, Calg
    4 Manitoba (2-2) beat UBC, Alta; lost to Reg, SFU
    5 Alberta (2-3, 2-4) beat SFU, Sask; lost to UBC, Calg, Man
    6 Simon Fraser (2-3) beat UBC Man; lost to Alta, Calg, Sask
    7 UBC (1-4) beat Alta; lost to SFU, Man, Reg, Calg


    Calgary's decisive win over UBC separates both teams from the pack, but clearly in opposite directions.

    Sask is an enigma. They have two shoot-out wins. In one, the attempted 2-point convert by Calgary raised eyebrows. In the other, a missed FG by SFU saved their bacon. Their only other win was by 1 point! Odd as it may seem, Sask could be 0-4. But they have achieved 3 victories and for that hang on to #2. This thread is for evaluating what has happened, not for predicting future results.

    Regina, Manitoba, Alberta, and SFU all fall into place but are clearly part of that large mid-range blob of CIS teams. With 4 losses UBC falls below that group.

    ONTARIO

    1 Queen's (5-0, 6-0) beat Gue, McM, Ott, York*, Wind*
    2 W. Ontario (4-1, 4-2) beat Ott, Laur, Wind*, Gue; lost to McM

    3 Ottawa (3-2, 4-2) beat Wat*, Tor*, Laur; lost to WO Que
    4 Laurier (3-2) beat Tor*, Wat*, McM; lost to WO, Ott
    5 McMaster (3-2) beat Wat* York*, WO; lost to Que, Lau
    6 Guelph (3-2) beat York* Tor*, Wat*; lost to Que, WO

    7 Waterloo (1-4) beat Wind*; lost to McM, Ott, Lau, Gue
    8 Windsor (2-3) beat York* Tor*; lost to WO, Wat*, Que
    9 Toronto (1-4, 0-5) beat York*; lost to Laur, Wind*, Gue, Ott
    10 York (0-5)


    * indicates win over a jabroni

    The Urban Cowboys' loss to McMaster causes the OUA rankings to be examined more closely. If we ditch the jabronis, here's the records:
    Queens: 3-0
    Urban Cowboys: 3-1
    Ottawa: 1-2
    Laurier: 1-2
    McMaster: 1-2
    Guelph: 0-2

    Ottawa beat Laurier, who beat McMaster. So that's how I rank the OUA top 6. I don't see any further movement from the bottom 4.

    QUEBEC/ATLANTIC

    1 Laval (4-1, 5-1) beat Conc, Bish, Mtl, Bish; lost to Mtl
    2 Montreal (4-1) beat McG, Conc, Acad*, Lav; lost to Lav

    3 St Francis-Xavier (4-0) beat SMU, MtA*, Conc, Acad*
    4 McGill (3-2) beat Sher, MtA*, Bish; lost to Mtl, Bish
    5 St. Mary's (3-1) beat Acad*, Sher; MtA* lost to StFX
    6 Sherbrooke (2-3, 2-4) beat Bish, Conc; lost to McG, SMU, Conc
    7 Bishop's (1-4) beat McG; lost to Sher, Lav, Lav, McG
    8 Concordia (1-4) beat Sher; lost to Lav, Mtl, Sher, StFX

    9 Acadia (1-3) beat MtA*; lost to SMU, Mtl, StFX
    10 Mt Allison (0-4) lost to Acad*, StFX, McG, SMU


    * indicates win over a jabroni

    As previously announced, Concordia has had their jabroni alert lifted by virtue of their win over Sherbrooke. However, they are, like UBC, bottom of the blob.

    However, I regret to announce that Acadia is now a jabroni. They have had one too many "off days". That's just what they are - a team that gets the crap kicked out of them by decent teams.

    Montreal and Laval are clearly the top two teams in the CIS right now. That TSN2 broadcast was CFL quality. Too bad there wasn't more of that. If we omit them and the jabronis, here's what the other 6 have done:
    St. Francis-Xavier: 2-0
    McGill: 2-1
    St. Mary's: 1-1
    Sherbrooke: 2-3
    Bishop's: 1-2
    Concordia: 1-2

    So that's how I have ranked those teams from #3 to #8.
STEP 3: THE BLEND
  • 1 Laval (4-1, 5-1) beat Conc, Bish, Mtl, Bish; lost to Mtl
    2 Montreal (4-1) beat McG, Conc, Acad*, Lav; lost to Lav
    3 Calgary (4-1, 4-2) beat Alta, Reg, SFU, UBC; lost to Sask
    4 Queen's (5-0, 6-0) beat Gue, McM, Ott, York*, Wind*
    5 W. Ontario (4-1, 4-2) beat Ott, Laur, Wind*, Gue; lost to McM
    6 Saskatchewan (3-1, 4-1) beat Calg, Reg, SFU; lost to Alta


    7 St Francis-Xavier (4-0) beat SMU, MtA*, Conc, Acad*
    8 McGill (3-2) beat Sher, MtA*, Bish; lost to Mtl, Bish
    9 Regina (2-2) beat Man, UBC; lost to Sask, Calg
    10 Manitoba (2-2) beat UBC, Alta; lost to Reg, SFU
    11 St. Mary's (3-1) beat Acad*, Sher; MtA* lost to StFX
    12 Alberta (2-3, 2-4) beat SFU, Sask; lost to UBC, Calg, Man
    13 Sherbrooke (2-3, 2-4) beat Bish, Conc; lost to McG, SMU, Conc
    14 Simon Fraser (2-3) beat UBC Man; lost to Alta, Calg, Sask
    15 Ottawa (3-2, 4-2) beat Wat*, Tor*, Laur; lost to WO Que
    16 Laurier (3-2) beat Tor*, Wat*, McM; lost to WO, Ott
    17 McMaster (3-2) beat Wat* York*, WO; lost to Que, Lau
    18 Bishop's (1-4) beat McG; lost to Sher, Lav, Lav, McG
    19 UBC (1-4) beat Alta; lost to SFU, Man, Reg, Calg
    20 Concordia (1-4) beat Sher; lost to Lav, Mtl, Sher, StFX
    21 Guelph (3-2) beat York* Tor*, Wat*; lost to Que, WO


    22 Acadia (1-3) beat MtA*; lost to SMU, Mtl, StFX
    23 Waterloo (1-4) beat Wind*; lost to McM, Ott, Lau, Gue
    24 Windsor (2-3) beat York* Tor*; lost to WO, Wat*, Que
    25 Toronto (1-4, 0-5) beat York*; lost to Laur, Wind*, Gue, Ott
    26 Mt Allison (0-4) lost to Acad*, StFX, McG, SMU
    27 York (0-5)


    NOTE: #8 through #21 are still within mili-rankings of one another. (See their records against non-jabronis for verification.) The segments of the rankings have been colour-coded and separated for your viewing convenience.
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Re: CIS Top Ten

Post by OVDB » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:51 pm

Sorry Jabroni - you're way off.

1 Montreal - beat a long-time #1 handily and only loss was without their starting QB

2 Queens - undefeated, very good D, vet QB

3 StFX - undefeated, tough D

4 Calgary - only loss was via an over-time gamble; Hec winning QB leading them

5 Laval - still THE powerhouse team/program but brought down to earth by the Carabins

6 Western - can score points with excellent vet QB, but defence a big concern

7 Sask Huskies - solid still perhaps, but not real impressive anymore

8 SMU - sorta like #7

9 Mac - tough D and maybe gelling of offence with a HC who led a Vanier win as an OC

10 Alberta (a maybe as the best of the rest of a mediocre West) - good D, superior kicking game

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