HD vs Blu-Ray, looks like a winner is emerging . . .

Boys love the Toys ... Discuss the latest toys, technologies, Virus Alerts, Help others with Home Improvements or fixin the car, etc.

Moderator: Referees

Post Reply
B-17
2017 MVP
2017 MVP
Posts: 2866
Joined: Tue Oct 28, 2003 9:41 am
Location: Winnipeg

HD vs Blu-Ray, looks like a winner is emerging . . .

Post by B-17 » Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:18 pm

And the winner is Blu-Ray. Another studio is dropping HD altogether, another that is exclusive will be going to both formats.

And the final guarantee . . . I bought an HD player two weeks ago. Mind you, it was $150 cheaper than the cheapest Blu-Ray I could find. And it upconverts my existing DVD's just fine.

I first thought I would go Blu-Ray for my new 42" Panasonic Plasma (thanks for asking), but the $400 for a PS3 or the $450 for the cheapest Blu-Rays (Sony, Samsung, Sharp etc) just didn't appeal to me. Plus shelling out another hundred for the HDMI and digital optical cables meant not a lot of $$$ to spare.

On the other hand, I can look forward to getting some cheap HD discs in the bargain bins. And you can look forward to the price of Blu-Ray players and discs freezing now that they know they've won the battle.

After losing with Beta, Sony made sure they weren't going to lose again. It was neck and neck for a long time, but the PS3 Blu-Ray capacity and getting Blockbuster to go exclusively Blu-Ray for high-def pushed them over the top, I think.

And who knows . . . now all the manufacturers will crank up Blu-Ray machines and in three years I can get a Blu-Ray player for $150, and I'll still be ok in net costs.
Black holes are where God divided by 0.
- Stephen Wright

BBBob
Hall of Famer
Posts: 9041
Joined: Sat Nov 30, 2002 9:17 am

Post by BBBob » Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:44 pm

Imho, things like beta-max vs vhs and blueray vs hd ought to be sorted out BEFORE the products hit the shelves. :? :x

Anyhow, good for you pal, I hope that get a lot of enjoyment from your system! I'm guessing that you have that sweet TV connected to a surround sound system - sweeeeet!

phpbb_ pal!

User avatar
David
All Star
Posts: 593
Joined: Sun Jun 06, 2004 8:21 pm
Location: Vancouver, B.C.

Post by David » Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:16 pm

As someone who works for one of the studios on the Blu-ray side, I can tell you that the Warner move from format agnostic to Blu-ray only is huge. Like Ovechkin leaving the Capitals to play for the Red Wings. Warner has by far and away the largest market share of the much-coveted catalog movies.

So in terms of the six major studios? This is how it looks:

Blu-ray
Sony
Disney
Fox
Warner

High Def DVD
Universal
Paramount (rumour has it that when they moved from being format neutral to the HD camp in late August, they had an out clause that stated that if Warner declared itself Blu-ray only, they can follow suit. Stay tuned).

DH :8)
Vancouver's like a bowl of cereal: what ain't fruits or nuts is flakes.

B-17
2017 MVP
2017 MVP
Posts: 2866
Joined: Tue Oct 28, 2003 9:41 am
Location: Winnipeg

Post by B-17 » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:40 am

BBBob wrote:Imho, things like beta-max vs vhs and blueray vs hd ought to be sorted out BEFORE the products hit the shelves. :? :x

Anyhow, good for you pal, I hope that get a lot of enjoyment from your system! I'm guessing that you have that sweet TV connected to a surround sound system - sweeeeet!

phpbb_ pal!
Got a very basic, but very capable, Yamaha 5.1 at a boxing day sale 2006 from Best Buy, replaced the FL and FR speakers with a couple of Bose bookshelf speakers, the centre, but subwoofer and surrounds are fine for now. It's hooked up to the HD player by digital optical cable. I'm going to watch the entire Lord of the Rings trilogy this weekend. Life is good.
Black holes are where God divided by 0.
- Stephen Wright

User avatar
ArgoDave
Legend
Posts: 19472
Joined: Sat Dec 07, 2002 8:04 am
Favourite Team: Toronto Argonauts
Location: Sitting in my chair, being a swell guy loved by all...
Contact:

Post by ArgoDave » Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:27 pm

I remember reading a few months ago that HD would win because the PORN industry liked it best, like they did with VHS. So I'll remain a tad skeptical for awhile longer before I commit. :wink:

Oh, and I've read on a few tech forums that cheapo HDMI cables are just as good as the real pricey monster cables. Just not as fancy looking....
Gord for Mayor of Swaggerville!

B-17
2017 MVP
2017 MVP
Posts: 2866
Joined: Tue Oct 28, 2003 9:41 am
Location: Winnipeg

Post by B-17 » Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:21 pm

I stayed away from Monster. When the sales rep tried to sell me the $100 HDMI, I picked up the cheaper ones instead.
Black holes are where God divided by 0.
- Stephen Wright

User avatar
ArgoDave
Legend
Posts: 19472
Joined: Sat Dec 07, 2002 8:04 am
Favourite Team: Toronto Argonauts
Location: Sitting in my chair, being a swell guy loved by all...
Contact:

Post by ArgoDave » Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:22 am

B-17 wrote:I stayed away from Monster. When the sales rep tried to sell me the $100 HDMI, I picked up the cheaper ones instead.
Good man. In most cases it won't make any difference. Here is a quote from a tech reviewer who discusses this:

One of the joys of digital transmission is that the cables have less of an effect on video quality than they do with analog signals. They're still subject to interference and poor-quality connectors are always an issue, but there's no need to blow a fortune on digital cabling. In almost all usage situations, less-expensive HDMI and DVI cables should offer nearly identical performance compared to expensive name brands. The exceptions are long runs--say, more than 10 feet--where high-quality cables often work better, although often you'll need some sort of extender for these situations anyway. Personally, I would buy the cheapest cable I could find from a local or online vendor with a return policy and try it out. If you do notice image degredation, which sometimes appears as "sparklies" in digital transmissions, then upgrade to a higher-quality cable.
Gord for Mayor of Swaggerville!

Gerry
Champion
Posts: 3725
Joined: Mon Jul 14, 2003 4:47 pm
Location: Surrey, BC

Post by Gerry » Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:20 pm

ArgoDave wrote:I remember reading a few months ago that HD would win because the PORN industry liked it best, like they did with VHS. So I'll remain a tad skeptical for awhile longer before I commit. :wink:

Oh, and I've read on a few tech forums that cheapo HDMI cables are just as good as the real pricey monster cables. Just not as fancy looking....
You can get porn in HD now? :o

User avatar
ArgoDave
Legend
Posts: 19472
Joined: Sat Dec 07, 2002 8:04 am
Favourite Team: Toronto Argonauts
Location: Sitting in my chair, being a swell guy loved by all...
Contact:

Post by ArgoDave » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:58 pm

Gerry wrote:
ArgoDave wrote:I remember reading a few months ago that HD would win because the PORN industry liked it best, like they did with VHS. So I'll remain a tad skeptical for awhile longer before I commit. :wink:

Oh, and I've read on a few tech forums that cheapo HDMI cables are just as good as the real pricey monster cables. Just not as fancy looking....
You can get porn in HD now? :o
That's what I read in a legit Tech review article. They said this was like when the Porn industry adopted VHS and Betamax fell by the wayside on total tapes available to buy/rent.

And that probably the same thing would happen since the porn industry adopted HD because supposedly it's cheaper and easier to mass copy like VHS was.

The idea of course being that a lot more people rent/buy porn than official stats can track and it would have an effect on machines purchased.

Perhaps they forgot most people probably Download porn these days instead....an option not available when VHS first came out. :wink:
Gord for Mayor of Swaggerville!

User avatar
David
All Star
Posts: 593
Joined: Sun Jun 06, 2004 8:21 pm
Location: Vancouver, B.C.

Post by David » Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:48 pm

This pretty much sums it all up:

Some of this is "in-joke" territory, but for a good laugh click here.

DH :8)
Vancouver's like a bowl of cereal: what ain't fruits or nuts is flakes.

User avatar
Sir Purrcival
Superstar
Posts: 2305
Joined: Sun Aug 24, 2003 3:36 pm
Location: Port Moody - BC

Post by Sir Purrcival » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:15 am

David wrote:This pretty much sums it all up:

Some of this is "in-joke" territory, but for a good laugh click here.

DH :8)
Man, the subtitles were crazy funny. I don't know who wrote it but someone ate their wheaties that day.
Lest We Forget!

User avatar
greycupgarry
2017 MVP
2017 MVP
Posts: 18242
Joined: Thu Nov 06, 2003 6:15 am
Location: Sect. 217 Fav. Teams: Argos, Leafs, Stamps, Flames, Patriots, Browns, Storm, Holland
Contact:

Re:

Post by greycupgarry » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:14 am

Sir Purrcival wrote:
David wrote:This pretty much sums it all up:

Some of this is "in-joke" territory, but for a good laugh click here.

DH :8)
Man, the subtitles were crazy funny. I don't know who wrote it but someone ate their wheaties that day.
Anyone know where this can be viewed now that it has been pulled from You Tube?
if you have noticed this notice you will have noticed that this notice is not worth noticing

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest