Americans..the more they "change" the more they are the same

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Americans..the more they "change" the more they are the same

Post by cfldave » Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:47 pm

From todays Globe and Mail:

Janet Napolitano has a message for Canadians: It's a border. Get used to it.
The new Homeland Security Secretary had only stern comments yesterday about the state and future of the Canada-U.S. border, at a symposium hosted by the Brookings Institution.
Her goal seemed to be to throw a bucket of reality on anyone who hoped that the arrival of Barack Obama's new administration would herald a loosening of new restrictions on cross-border traffic


This is the part heralding the reality that Obama is the same as Bush when it comes to Canada:

And Roberta Jacobson, who is Deputy Assistant Secretary for Canada, Mexico and NAFTA at the State Department, said that Canada and the United States should talk about border issues without involving Mexico, the third member of the North American Free Trade Agreement partnership.

“This is one where we ought to start with Canada,” she said. This has long been the wish of Canadian officials, who believe that bringing Mexico into border discussions prevents agreements in areas where Canada and the United States could work co-operatively.

But Ms. Napolitano doused that idea as well, reminding the gathering that “one of the things that we need to be sensitive to is the very real feelings among southern border states and in Mexico that if things are being done on the Mexican border, they should also be done on the Canadian border.”

It seemed to be another lesson learned: when it comes to national security, the Obama administration's policies are often consonant with its Republican predecessor


Nappy must just be another dumb Yank from the southern US if she seriously believes the Mexican and Canadian borders should be treated the same, especially so we don't hurt the feelings of those oh so sensitive Mexicans.
Someone should remind this idiot that there are no walls on our border, no gangs of thugs killing thousands of people, no massive drug trade and virtually nobody trying to get into the US via an unguarded Canadian border.

In this case it would seem that "Yes we can" means yes we can do just what Bush did and do it even better.
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Re: Americans..the more they "change" the more they are the same

Post by Ron » Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:56 pm

“Twelve voices were shouting in anger, and they were all alike. No question, now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”
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Re: Americans..the more they "change" the more they are the same

Post by Cool » Sun Mar 29, 2009 5:41 pm

Ron wrote:“Twelve voices were shouting in anger, and they were all alike. No question, now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”
- George Orwell, Animal Farm
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